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Post by dwevans on Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:36 am

It would seem that the way i posted my hybrid scheme was incorrect although i followed the format set out by Brza as an example. Apologies for this. Maybe it would be worth revising how this is posted in the stickied post.

I would like to therefore post it again with less confusion. You may base this on a 3-4 front but i will be playing a hybrid scheme (Pats or Lions Playbook)

Please vote on the following players at the following positions:

NT: Darius KilgoMarcus HardisonCarlos Watkins
LE: J.J. WattD.J. ReaderChristian Covington
RE: Jadeveon ClowneyRobert Ayers Jr

MLB: Benardrick McKinney,Peter KalambayiDylan Cole
ROLB: Whitney MercilusDuke Ejiofor
LOLB: Zach CunninghamBen Heeney

Kilgo is a 91 strength player and is more effective because of this at Nose with current game mechanics.
Ayers is old and on a 1 year deal. He is not a set starter. Him, Reader and Covington will be rotated in or one will be traded. Clowney, McKinney and Watt are the only starters in my from 7. Thanks for all the concern about my starters but I can work that out myself. I have a lot of depth at Defensive End. Deal with it or deal for it. I am open to offers.

My MLB LOLB will be the position i plan on usering. Mercilus will be set as a weapon for the CPU to control and Clowney may drop back in pass rushing situations or in nickel.

I believe this means the only player i need to move back is Cole should you approve all these changes. I feel that I have had undue attention with the finer details of this. I don't see anyone else getting this scrutiny. Please just vote on the above and ignore all of the overblown discussion about minutiae that happened yesterday.

If I have again posted this incorrectly then let me know. I tried the way you suggested in the rules and I am now posting in the format you later asked for but I do feel like the goalposts are being moved with little consistency.

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by Mattanite on Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:50 am

I didn't say you'd done it incorrectly, I just said the way you've moved the following players looks like scheme stacking which is an unsim problem we're trying to avoid:
DT Reader to LE (99ovr watt there) 
ROLB Clowney to RE (83ovr Ayers there, Merciless at ROLB) 
FS Matthieu to SS (86OVR Hall there)

Plus lining a speed rusher over a speed rusher with Merciless at ROLB and Clowney at RE is the reason hybrid declaration was created. (like Yannick of the jags at the 5tech last year). 

There isn't a problem with you running a hybrid, and I'm not dictating what formation sub goes where or who you pick as a starter on the DC as long as its sim. I'm saying the way you've arranged your base roster is unsim which is why I didn't approve certain position changes.

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by dwevans on Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:07 pm

You’re doing it again.
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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by dwevans on Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:07 pm

Ok I also request to move Hal to FS but I have 5 good safeties and a rookie I would like to develop. Someone has to sit on the bench!!!!!
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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by FraserOliver17 on Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:12 pm

Play your Rookie safety at RE in a 34 and DT in 43
Problem solved

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by dwevans on Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:17 pm

@FraserOliver17 wrote:Play your Rookie safety at RE in a 34 and DT in 43
Problem solved

Sure. Thats the one move i haven't made in game. I'll do it now
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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by brza37 on Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:16 pm

You posted it correctly the first time by listing positions for 3-4 and 4-3 but the positions in Madden need to be based on one scheme. You mixed and matched 3-4 and 4-3 positions which caused the problem.

In a 3-4 multiple that you posted above, I don't approve the following moves:
Clowney at 34DE (Speed, Weight)
Kalambayi at 34MLB (Height, Coverage)
Heeney at 34OLB (Height, Pass Rush)

Thats based on the info in the stickied post:

@brza37 wrote:Generally the following positions should be equal:
43 DE = 34 OLB
43 LB = 34 ILB
43 DT = 34 DE if less than 310 lbs
43 DT = 34 NT if more than 310 lbs, high STR


The Texans roster was already based on 3-4 personnel so really no positions up front need to be switched. If you play a hybrid you can still formation sub the guys into the corresponding 4-3 positions above.

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by dwevans on Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:22 pm

Clowney has been a 3-4 DE in real life tho. Seems an odd decline. The others I can live with if you really must insist but there will be multiple players like Kalambayi at MLB and multiple players like Heeney in 3-4 rosters across the league.
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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by warrior9674 on Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:17 pm

Ok for me except clowney..he's not a 34 end for me anymore.

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by LTown27ers on Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:22 am

I see it like warrior..clowney is not 3-4 end. The rest I can live with so far but clowney is a 3-4 OLB and a 4-3 DE imo

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by dwevans on Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:34 am

Lol

Hes a tweener and an athletic freak. He can play both and has spent entire seasons at each in real life. I’m not asking for anything ridiculous here. It’s a position he has played for then Texans in real life.

Thanks for your efforts and independent voting

To be clear - I can play him there in formation subs but I can’t list him there right? I mean none of this makes any sense if that’s the case. If I can play him there on any down then surely I can list him there. Can you clarify this
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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by brza37 on Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:15 am

Clowney played 3-4 DE at 284lbs. He purposely lost weight to move to OLB noted in this article here:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-Jadeveon-Clowney-hopes-less-weight-means-9017839.php

He also wasn't very good at 3-4 DE. He finally lived up to his potential when they moved him out wide at OLB.

@dwevans wrote:To be clear - I can play him there in formation subs but I can’t list him there right? I mean none of this makes any sense if that’s the case. If I can play him there on any down then surely I can list him there. Can you clarify this

No, as the vote stands you can't play him at 34 DE. You can use formation subs to play him at 4-3 DE in your hybrid because 4-3DE and 3-4OLB are basically the same position, Edge players.

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by dwevans on Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:23 am

He’s still big enough. Look at Trey Flowers, Deatrich Wise, Ziggy Ansah etc who will all play 3-4 DE this year in hybrid schemes.

This is exactly why I find the decision inconsistent.
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Post by FraserOliver17 on Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:20 pm

Trey Flowers has like 12 speed and couldn't survive as an edge rusher....or realistically as a 43 DT either. he's a pure 34 DE

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Post by FraserOliver17 on Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:21 pm

Ziggy Ansah is pretty much a pure edge rusher and shouldnt be at 34 end tho

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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by Mattanite on Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:36 pm

Just to clear up what's been approved (so far)

Clowney to RE - 0
Reader to LE - 2
Covington to LE - 4
Heeney/Cole to OLB - 2 (4 if running a base43) 
Kal to MLB - 3 (brza object) 
Cunningham to OLB - 4
Matthieu to SS - 4 (Switch with Hal)
Hal to FS - 4 (Switch with Matthieu)

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Post by dwevans on Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:02 am

I don’t need to get FS to SS voted on tho

Plus the whole committee hasn’t voted but thank you Matt
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Re: Texans Positions Revised

Post by Mattanite on Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:04 pm

@dwevans, typically left to right changes are overlooked but onerous moves might be reviewed such as moves seen as stacking under the new scheme formats. Apologies, I did forget that you had asked for Hal to FS so will update that now. 

"The following changes are generally allowed but must be submitted to the trade review committee for approval first:
OLB - MLB
3-4DE - 4-3DT
4-3DE - 3-4 OLB
OG-OC
FS-SS
FB-TE"

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